How To Optimize Brain Health For Your Best Life with Dr. Isabel Hunsinger

Today, Dr. Isabel Hunsinger discusses her journey in functional medicine and her mission to optimize brain health. In this info-packed episode, we'll visit about her frustration with conventional medicine and how she transitioned to practicing functional medicine. Dr. Hunsinger emphasizes the importance of being the CEO of your own health, and she provides tips for improving brain health, including getting hormones checked, prioritizing sleep, and addressing past trauma. She also talks about the significance of the ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) score and offers resources for further information.

Dr. Hunsinger has her own podcast, "The MD and Chef Team," and has many freebies available on her website doctoronamission.com.

Transcript

Magic Barclay: 0:59

Welcome back to a magical life. I'm your host, Magic Barclay. And today Dr. Isabel Hunsinger joins us and Dr. Isabel is a doctor on a mission. And I'm actually going to let Isabel tell you about herself. Welcome

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 1:15

Isabel. Hi, magic. Thank you for joining me here in New Zealand. I'm in New Zealand and you're in Australia and we're here on zoom. This is exciting,

Magic Barclay: 1:24

isn't it? Now tell us about why you're in functional medicine, how you got there a little bit about your backstory.

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 1:33

Well, essentially, I was just a frustrated doctor. That's the bottom line, a frustrated doctor. And I just said, this is not working. My husband and I, I've been a medical doctor since 1991 and graduated from Denver Medical School in Colorado. And in 2000, my husband and I moved to New Zealand. And in New Zealand, because I thought, ah, let's do medicine differently. Let's go somewhere in the world that does medicine differently. And here in New Zealand, at the time, everybody had health care, could get health care. you know, you didn't have to have insurance to have health care. And so we came here and I practiced. conventional medicine as a family practice doctor. A GP is what we are called here in New Zealand and down under. And in 2013, I just became so frustrated with healthcare because people weren't getting better. They were just getting sicker. And I realized that we didn't have a healthcare system. We've got disease management. And you know, that saying when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.

Magic Barclay: 2:41

very much so. And I love that, that epiphany came to you.

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 2:46

Yeah. Yeah, finally. And when the student is ready, the teacher will appear well, functional medicine, the whole. understanding of functional medicine was opened up to me. I mean, I really took a deep dive into it. And so I started learning from the Institute of Functional Medicine in America with all my other colleagues who were medical doctors and other medical professionals that were like, you know, this is just not working. And so we really took a deep dive in learning about The root cause. Why are people sick? Because, you know, in conventional medicine, we're taught to just put a band aid on it. a little bit about my story. In 2013, we started Doctor on a Mission. I, I stopped private practice, so I didn't have a ground practice. I, I saw my mentor, Dr. Mark Hyman. Are you familiar with Dr. Mark Hyman? I love his work. Yes. Well, he got me ex. I didn't he put the fire back in my belly about medicine and I was like, that's it. If I'm going to reach more people in the world, I've got to reach them outside of the practice to help influence and encourage and serve and add value to more families. Because the whole philosophy in my mind was if we can teach one person. to fly, they can lead a thousand to flight, right? And if two can be taught how to fly, that can lead 10, 000 to flight. So I was like, okay, we're going to start doctor on a mission to prevent and reverse disease and give people hope in the process. Cause people don't have hope in medicine. They're like, ah, this is my life. And they feel stuck and confined.

Magic Barclay: 4:27

Well they are stuck and confined because they're consumers, they're customers. And what happens when your customer doesn't need you anymore? That's kind of how the medical model

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 4:37

works these days. Yeah. Yeah. And there's some great things about conventional medicine, but then there's some things that just are definitely not working. And I had been a doctor, gosh, 23 years, something like that. 24 years? No, 23 years or 22 years Anyway, a long time. Not a, I'm, I'm not a quick calculator, but it took me 22 years or more to kind of like go, oh my gosh, you know, this is not working. So we stopped, my private practice and we went online as Doctor on a mission. And in 2014 I was 53 and did not realize this, but I was menopausal. Here I am a doctor and I didn't even realize I was menopausal and I became really overwhelmed with fear and I was listening to the inner critic because that fear was this is not gonna work What do you think you're doing? You're a doctor. You're supposed to be in the walls of a room taking care of one patient at a time. That's the way it's supposed to be. And I was listening to that inner critic. And when I get anxious, I don't sleep. And what happened was I only slept two, maybe three hours every night for 17 nights straight. If you can imagine that.

Magic Barclay: 5:59

I'm imagining that you were completely strung out and like overwired. The wild and

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 6:06

tired. Oh, man, it was ugly. And by the end of that 17th night, I tried to take my life twice, over three days. I know. I know. And by the grace of God, that plan was stopped. Luckily. Because, my husband took me to the doctor, and the doctor said to me, Isabel, you gotta see the psychiatrist. And for a medical doctor, we're not supposed to be seeing psychiatrists, just so you know, that's like an understood statement. It's quiet and it's understood. Doctors don't see psychiatrists. And so I saw the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist said, Isabel, you need to be on this antidepressant for the rest of your life. And you know what, at that point. I totally surrendered magic. I wanted to live. I mean, I really wanted to live and I wanted to sleep and he was going to get me to sleep and he got me to sleep and I love him to this day because he kept me alive long enough. So that my husband and I could be on this journey together to figure this out, because we were like, wow, this is so wrong. And when he said to me, Isabelle, you're going to be on this medicine for the rest of your life. Like I said, yep, I will do whatever you say. But deep down inside of me, magic, my soul was like, Hmm, we'll see about that.

Magic Barclay: 7:31

I just need to stop you there. I really love this distinction because here you are being told that this medication, which by the way, listeners can be quite toxic and harmful, this medication is something you're going to have to be on for the rest of your life. You did the right thing and you said, okay, but just for now, so something the listeners really need to hear is it's okay to take those medications. But not long term. It's a just for now to get you through. That's

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 8:03

a really clear distinction. Exactly. And, and we'll talk more about that. Cause I'll explain in the, in the teaching part, like what we can do because this doctor, he was a psychiatrist. He wasn't trained to check hormones. He wasn't trained to think about magnesium three and eight. He wasn't trained to, to say, Hey, you know, here's some ideas to help you sleep better. He just knew the immediate action. And that's the way we're trained in medicine. And that's the scary part. So. Now, I'm way over on the other side, thankfully. I'm off the medication safely, and I underlined the word safely. I know how to stay calm. I know how to listen to my inner cheerleader, turn up the volume to my inner cheerleader, and turn down the volume to my inner critic, and just say, you're a liar, I'm not listening to you, that is not my story for the rest of my life, and I know how to sleep. And I know how to do it naturally. And I want to talk essentially about what I learned. I mean, I learned so much and there was no way I could talk about it all in a short podcast, but I'd love to give the listeners some, some ideas. About sleeping better.

Magic Barclay: 9:25

Definitely. Before we get on to that though, Isabel. Yeah. We asked the same three questions here, and we'll just fly through them quite quickly. but the first one is, what can your expertise do to accelerate health, be it the physical, emotional, or spiritual?

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 9:42

give you a hope. That you're in control. Give you hope that you are in control of your health because you need to learn to be the CEO of your health. You've got to fight the biggest fight you will ever fight to take care of your health. Because if you don't have your health, man, life is hard. It's ugly. I

Magic Barclay: 10:06

love that. Be the CEO of your health. Now the next question is around wealth. People think that's just the financial, just the money, but we know that your health is your wealth. Wealth can also be personal or emotional. So what are your top three tips to creating

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 10:24

wealth? Number one is being grateful. Just realizing, wow. Like this morning, I was taking a hot shower, and I was thinking about the people in the Ukraine. Like, when was the last time they took a shower? So just being present and grateful for the small things. Number two is telling people you love them. More and more and more. If they come to your mind, call them, text them, tell them you love them. And number three is hug. I love hugging. A lot of people may not like it and I can pick up on their energy if they don't want to be hugged, but I love hugging. So

Magic Barclay: 11:05

you love the release of oxytocin there. Yeah. I love it. And we talk about weight loss here. Many of the listeners might see practitioners or doctors or celebrities and go, well, they've never had a weight problem. What would they know? So what can you offer the listeners? On their weight journey, some, maybe some little things that they can hang on to.

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 11:29

Number one is make sure you've got your macronutrients balance. You know, every time you eat, make sure it's with a good carbohydrate, a good protein and a good fat. And a good carbohydrate are your dark green leafy vegetables, it's your low glycemic index fruit. I mean, even a slice of onion's got carbohydrate. And then match that with a protein, a good protein. And then match that also with a good fat, like your coconut oil, your, your butter, your avocado. Your extra virgin olive oil, because what that does is it keeps your blood sugars nice and stable for up to four hours, you will gain weight if you're eating a carbohydrate. All by itself, if you eat a muffin, your blood sugars are going to go up and then down within 90 minutes. And then you're going to go. Oh, I need to eat again. So this constant up and down of eating is not good. Number 2 is wait. I mean, you just have to ask yourself. Why do I have this weight on? Is it because I'm stressed? You know, do I need to find a functional medicine doctor to check my thyroid, to check my cortisol, to check all these areas? Because there's a bigger issue. And ask yourself, am I self medicating by eating? You know, so many people self medicate and numb themselves, not only with eating, but, you know, pornography spending money using their credit card. So just ask yourself, why do I have this weight on? And I always like asking that deeper question and 3. Is no food three hours before bed. That will help you lose weight. That's for sure.

Magic Barclay: 13:17

Love it. Love it. Okay. That's the official questions. Now, when you and I were discussing off air, what were we going to discuss? We looked at optimizing your brain health for your best life. Now, just so that the listeners know what. My stake in this conversation is, you know, I always bring you something that you can learn from, but as you all know, I love learning as well. I've developed a inflammation in the brain called cerebellar ataxia. Now, however long it's been there, I finally know what it is. People often have these series of brain inflammation that. Maybe they don't recognize or that's not picked up and you mentioned about, you know, the antidepressants and things like that, we see things very cut and dried as depression, anxiety, loss of balance, but we put things in pigeonholes without realizing that the overarching thing here is brain health. So let's deep dive into this. What. Can we teach the listeners about brain health and

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 14:31

inflammation? Well, inflammation is in and of itself all by itself, in my mind. the word inflammation means your brain's on fire. Whenever you hear the word inflammation, it's fire. So you always want to check your homocysteine level and you want a homocysteine level less than seven. And there's a lot of different ways to get your homocysteine level down. Another reason why people have inflammation is their gut. Health is wrong. So definitely get your gut checked with perhaps a complete microbiome mapping and see what needs to be repaired. The third cause of inflammation could be biotoxins and oh my gosh, biotoxins is like in and of itself. A year long discussion, but your biotoxins could be your metals, you know, a metal toxicity, mercury, lead, arsenic, just to name a few. Another of the biotoxins is your organic chemicals would be, oh, pesticides, like your environmental toxins, and then the third would be Things like herpes, herpes simplex type one causes inflammation of the brain, Lyme, mold, Borrelia, all of those things, your gum health can cause inflammation, we get this. So make sure you go to the dentist and get a peri chart, which checks for the depth of the pockets in your, in your gums. And if it's greater than three millimeters, then Sweetheart, you got gum disease and that needs to be repaired and that because if that's not repaired, then your brain will be on fire. So those are just like a big inflammation differential diagnosis that you need to take a deep dive in and start working and teasing out what's affecting me.

Magic Barclay: 16:19

Definitely. So listeners, look, there's a lot there that Isabel just mentioned

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 16:24

a lot, just a little bit. And

Magic Barclay: 16:28

so go through the podcast and take some notes, but definitely, you know, inflammation. Is what is happening as you know, I like to separate you from your symptomology. It is not what you are. That is really important. So gum disease is something that is happening to you. It is not what you are. Inflammation, same thing, you know, and you've really got to separate yourself. We say this a lot in functional health is you really do have to separate yourself from the

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 17:01

symptoms. Yeah. Your symptoms are talking to you. Exactly.

Magic Barclay: 17:07

Let's dive more into the brain. You know, we often hear, about diseases like Alzheimer's and MS and, and Parkinson's and, oh, they've happened because of aluminium or, you know, we're hearing a lot about it's happened because of what is. What is the true pathway that leads to these

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 17:33

diseases? Well, it's all brain health and there's in my mind from my research, there's 14 paths, but I'm not going to be able to talk about all 14 paths. The two big ones that I'd like to talk about is hormones and getting your hormones under control. And this is something that I learned the hard way in my journey, Ladies and gentlemen, if you're going through a tough time with maybe anxiety and depression, uh, I would highly recommend getting your hormones checked. And the hormones, Estrogen is definitely for women, women. I mean, that really affects women much more, but estrogen and progesterone get those check because estrogen and progesterone help you sleep. And the research shows that up to 40 percent of women. would not have Alzheimer's if they were on proper bio identical hormone replacement. Unfortunately, two thirds of the population of Alzheimer's are women. and I know from the research that it's got a lot to do with perimenopause and menopause. Like this area, we're just thrown on antidepressants and our hormones are not checked. And then that Leaves a susceptible to having Alzheimer's another hormone to get checked is your testosterone because testosterone helps improve your mood. Another hormone, which people don't believe is a hormone is vitamin D vitamin D is a hormone. It's made out of cholesterol and. If your vitamin D levels are an optimal range, that helps decrease any brain health illness that you're having. And the area you want to have it as is between 50 to 80 nanograms per milliliter. And you can work with your health care practitioner to figure out how much you need for that. The other hormone is DHEA, that helps with improved mood too. And DHEA is created by your adrenals and a lot of people don't know, Hey, look, I was a medical doctor. I never even understood to check that, you know, this is something that even endocrinologists Trained in the in the mainstream medicine. Don't don't understand how to check. The next one is pregnant alone Pregnant alone is the mama bear of all hormones She like is the mama bear, you know And she makes all the cortisol and she makes all the estrogen and testosterone and the DHEA She she is the mother Of all hormones. Well, like you said, if mama's not happy, the kids aren't going to be happy. So make sure that mama bear, the pregnenolone has a high level is not depleted because if she's not full, if you don't have a full cup of pregnenolone, she's not going to be able to give you every, all the other hormones that you need to, to live a balanced brain health life. And thyroid. Oh, my gosh. Thyroid controls 400, 400 functions in your body. And so many doctors, me included, were just trained to check TSH. TSH is but one of the many. Hormones.

Magic Barclay: 20:47

I'm just going to jump in here. I was in Australia and, uh, I said for years, something was wrong with my thyroid. And when I asked for a full thyroid panel, sometimes it was just TSH for, so that's your thyroid stimulating hormone. Sometimes it was T4 and T3 and TSH. But a full thyroid panel has what, seven or eight different things that you need to test all the antibodies and the ratios. And so listeners, please, if you're asking for a full thyroid panel, write down what a full thyroid panel is. You can find all the things that you're looking for on Google there, take that to your doctor and say, Hey, dude, this is a full thyroid panel. No more of this TSH only thing, because

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 21:42

you're not going to get the answers. No. And look, a lot of conventional medical doctors aren't trained in this, so you might make them feel uncomfortable. If that's the case and they don't want to move forward, then find a functional medicine doctor. You know, find Magic, or go to the Institute of Functional Medicine and, and find a practitioner in that in your area. We're all over the place. We're getting trained up because we know this is the medicine of the future. one more thing about TSH. If they say that your TSH is, any above 2. 0, that means you're hypothyroid. That means your thyroid is not working well. Don't accept anything over 2. 0 as normal. It's not normal to have a TSH over 2. 0. Okay. Just wanted to let you know that.

Magic Barclay: 22:29

Just on that, listeners, this is how crazy it gets out there. When I was saying something was wrong with my thyroid and being dismissed, my TSH was 76.

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 22:39

No way. Yeah. 76. Yeah. That's insane. I'm sorry that happened to you. But

Magic Barclay: 22:48

it does happen. And so you really do need to be pushy. You really do need to get the answers that you need. Because as Isabel said, she You know, struggled a little bit with the mainstream and, and I certainly did. I've been very open with you all about that. If you feel like the answers you're getting are not serving you, get answers somewhere else. Contact Isabel, contact myself, you know, contact any number of functional health people, because we know that you need

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 23:23

these answers. Yeah, it's the puzzle. It's the pieces of the puzzle. So that's pretty much that block is pretty much hormones for brain health. And, you know, we can go deeper on all that stuff. But, and then the next big block is sleep. Oh my gosh, sleep. How many times in my medical training was I taught to be sleep? I was a macho woman if I only slept two or three hours a night, you know, like sleep is a waste of time is the way I was trained. Lack of sleep almost killed me and left my husband without a wife and my kids without a mom, you know, and so we got to erase this thought that you don't need sleep. You need sleep. Okay. And we were all, we are all designed magic, right? To sleep seven to nine hours. Good. Every night.

Magic Barclay: 24:16

I'm nodding while Isabelle's talking. I'm going to get a very sore head

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 24:20

soon. And let's talk about how we can do these things because it's not that hard. Really, you can do this and it doesn't need to be a sleeping tablet. Now look, I have people that come in to me that haven't been sleeping for weeks and yes, I can give them a sleeping tablet for a couple of days to get them back into the rhythm, but then we've got a. Get into a system. They've got to start implementing the system and the system is simple But you've got to make it a habit because if you don't make it a habit, guess what you become unwell So number one is no food three hours before going to bed because you know what if you eat before going to bed Your body is wasting all that time to digest Then why would you use that? You want to use that time to be sleeping, to go into your sleep. Number two is no alcohol three hours before going to bed. No alcohol essentially ever. Do you drink alcohol?

Magic Barclay: 25:26

I don't drink alcohol and there's a number of reasons why I don't drink alcohol. And the main one is that my liver doesn't like it. So when I drink alcohol, it's very entertaining for other people, especially in winter because they can warm up by touching my head because I'm red and sweating buckets.

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 25:44

Yeah. That's right. And you know why that happens? Do you want to know why that happens? Go for it. Because alcohol clears the estrogen faster. It makes the liver Clear the estrogen and we need estrogen to not be having hot flashes when our estrogen levels are going down Then we have hot flashes and you so you will induce hot flashes with alcohol Exactly. So alcohol is a funny drug. look we all are taught Oh, yeah, you can drink a glass of wine and stuff. Look alcohol is not a health food, please Stop believing the lie that alcohol is a health food. Yes, a glass of organic red wine once or twice a week is fine. My philosophy and from the research that I have done is no more than four alcoholic servings a week. I always recommend organic red wine because of the resveratrol, but you don't need anything else. Your body doesn't need it. It shrinks your brain. In particular, alcohol shrinks a part of your brain called the hippocampus. Now, I didn't say hippopotamus. I said hippocampus. And the hippocampus is your memory center. So don't be shrinking your hippocampus. Okay. Now the next question is how many glasses of wine are there in a bottle of wine? No, not two, no, not three, there's seven glasses servings of alcohol in a bottle.

Magic Barclay: 27:16

And how many times do we hear, particularly women say, I'll just sit down with a bottle of wine. That's seven glasses of

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 27:25

alcohol. And it will make you fat because you eat stupid, you get your hand in a bag of potato chips and you're like, Oh, how did this happen? So just don't decrease your alcohol. The next thing is Magnesium Threonate. I love Magnesium Threonate. It's the Magnesium that gets the crosses into your, brain and ask your GP if you can be on Magnesium, Magnesium Threonate and ask him or her, and if you've got any heart or kidney problems. You want to make sure that that's cleared. The next one is ashwagandha. Ashwagandha is a beautiful adaptogenic herb and it helps you sleep. It helps you calm down your adrenals so you're not wired so you can sleep and you can have between two to four grams of that. I always recommend an hour before bed. Um, some people take it during the day and they get sleepy and I go, okay, well then that means your body's talking to you. Take it at nighttime. Progesterone. Now, the only hormones I recommend are bioidentical hormones. And bioidentical um, means it's body identical. It's body natural, and you can get progesterone bioidentical. in New Zealand and Australia, it's under the trade name. Now because the pharmaceutical companies are in on the deal, they understand that women wanna do bioidentical now. Uh, the trade name is tro Justin. utrogestin. however, if you're working with a functional medicine doctor, they can, organize that through a compounding pharmacy

Magic Barclay: 28:59

progesterone there, we know how nurturing it can be for the brain. And I've been reading a lot of studies about people with acquired brain injuries being given progesterone to pull them out of that

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 29:14

symptomology. It calms them down. Yeah. And it's also a great detoxifier. Progesterone helps you detox. So anybody with inflammation will benefit from, from progesterone. I give, I have men, like when I check their progesterone levels, I, if they're not sleeping well and their progesterone levels are low, I will give them progesterone at nighttime. And it just, you know, we all feel better when we're sleeping.

Magic Barclay: 29:38

And ladies, low progesterone when you're having periods. So premenopausal, what that looks like can be migraines. Every time you have a cycle, those really piercing headaches, that's a sign that you have low progesterone. So again,

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 29:55

listen to your body, right? And then estrogen, the next, um, to help you sleep is estrogen. and when I say estrogen, I don't mean. Premerin is a synthetic hormone. You don't want to use synthetic. There's two things. You never want to use a synthetic estrogen and you never want to take estrogen by mouth because that increases your risk of a stroke or a heart attack. However, when you use a patch. Or a cream, estradiol, um, that will help, that is absorbed through your body. So now, the pharmaceutical companies here down under, and in America, and above the, uh, the equator, um, are also using estradot, or estraderm, and that's a patch, and you can change that, uh, once every three days, so twice a week. The next thing to help you sleep is, and this is the last one that I've got today, is the 5 HTP. 5 HTP is wonderful for certain people. 5 HTP is great for people that are not on an SSRI. So things like Prozac, Paxil, escitalopram, all those SSRIs, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, Those are not people that can be using 5 HTP, because then you'll get a serotonin syndrome, and that looks like you're shivering, you got diarrhea, rigidity, fevers, and seizures, and you're not going to do that on my chef, so no! at 5 HTP if you're on an SSRI, however, if you're not on an SSRI and you'd like to consider 5 HTP, then the beauty of 5 HTP is it gets converted into serotonin, which helps your brain be happy, and it helps it also get converted into melatonin, and melatonin helps you sleep. And the dose of that would be 100 to 200 milligrams. So those are the two big areas. And then the other big area that I love talking about, and I'll just touch on it is past trauma magic. I had no idea about the a score. I really didn't before my, almost dying. Experience.

Magic Barclay: 32:24

So for the listeners, your ACES score is your adverse childhood experience score. You can also have ACERS, which is adverse childhood relationship experiences. And there is actually a standardized questionnaire, 10 questions. Now it can be found anywhere on the web. You can contact us on our website. We can send it to you. It's actually part of our intake. And, uh, So what it does is asks you some fairly confronting questions, and most people have at least one adverse childhood experience, 99 percent of the population will score one to three, but if you score four and above. Then past trauma is a big issue. So that's what Isabel

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 33:12

is referring to. Right. And I scored more than four. I had no idea that if you score more than four, you have a 1200 percent increased risk of suicide. I mean, really, don't you think that's something that should be taught in medical training? Definitely.

Magic Barclay: 33:31

When I was diagnosed with multiple autoimmunes, I did the ACEs score and I scored seven and it was like, no wonder my life's been in the toilet. Like you don't think about it because you survive through what is going on in your childhood. And it's not until you see this questionnaire and you see a seven staring at you. And

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 33:53

it's like. No wonder. How am I still here? I know your body kept you alive. I know. And, and the cool thing about this is, you know, it's, it's, it's so cool to see the process, see why you're where you are right now. And the cool part is doing the work, which is the hardest work I've ever done. And that is to dive into your limbic system and get that repaired. And there's a lot of different ways to do limbic work. System work. Uh, the way I did it was through Annie Hopper, the DNRS, the dynamic neural retraining system online. Bottom line is your brain is plastic. You can mold and stretch and recreate your brain, but you got to do the work. Okay. Um, and then there's the EMDR. And I don't know if you know of any other System work? limbic system.

Magic Barclay: 34:47

I do. The practitioners at Holistic Natural Health Australia can help you with that. We actually do work with the limbic system and a lot of coaching techniques and things that you can take with you moving forward, because it is just one of these areas of health that is so often

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 35:06

disregarded. Oh yeah. Yeah. It is opening up to the world, which is, I'm so excited about. So those are the three big areas, your hormones, get your hormones under control, get your sleep under control and deal with past trauma. Those are the three big ones that I wanted to share today on optimizing your brain health for your best life. From the experience and the research that I have come to know and love and hold tight.

Magic Barclay: 35:34

I love it. Now you have a podcast. Which I've been blessed to be a guest on. Tell us about

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 35:43

your podcast. The podcast is called the MD and chef team, and you can find it on podcasts. And it's my husband and I, my husband's the nutritional chef, culinary chef at, at a doctor on a mission. So we talk about everything, marriage, stress, relationships, raising kids, health, all things.

Magic Barclay: 36:07

Love it. And. People love freebies on our podcast here. We always give a freebie. So what can you offer the listeners and where can they find that?

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 36:17

Great. There's a lot of freebies on our website called Info at Doctor on a Mission, that's D O T O R on a mission. So it's Dr. Long, Dr. D O C T O R on a mission. com.

Magic Barclay: 36:32

Loving it. Now we've covered so much here, Isabel. Is there something that we haven't covered that you feel the listeners need to hear?

Dr. Isabel Hunsinger: 36:42

Find a word that feeds your heart for the day and just focus on it. Meditate on it. Have it be your Your word, like for me, my word today is patient endurance, Isabelle.

Magic Barclay: 36:55

Love it. Now listeners, this was your episode two, three, nine coming up. We have a lot more great guests, but really we've covered so much today. I would urge you to re listen to this episode, take some notes because we've just given you so much information. Fantastic. Isabelle has been so generous. And listeners again, thank you for your time. Go forth and create your magical life.